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Seagull movements.

Postby rfrazier on Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:29 pm

Eddie sent me a couple of movements, a ST24 (ETA 2824 base) and a ST26 (ETA 2892 base). He asked me if I would take a look at them, which I'm pleased to do.

Here's my (very) tentative plan. When I get home tomorrow I will time them in position. At the weekend, I'll take apart the ST24. I happen to have a spare ETA 2824-2. I'll also take it apart to be able to make some comparisons. Sometime next week I'll do the ST26.

Eddie already said that he would like a close look at the teeth of the wheels. If there is anything else that you would like closely examined, let me know.

They certainly look pretty (although I'm keener on copper finishes).

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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby Kaiser on Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:38 pm

Hi Bob,

Take a look at the hair springs and compare them to the ETA's. This may give some idea of the quality of the movements as well. Finish is not everything now is it.
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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby magirus on Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:43 pm

I look forward to your opinions on these movements as more than a few of us will probably own a watch powered by them in the future. :)
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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby Michael in Frisco, Texas on Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:09 pm

Bob, I look forward to your observations.

I must say, from the pictures anyway, these look well made and well finished. Looks can be deceiving...

Are those Kif shock protected, Bob?
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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby Seamaster73 on Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:25 pm

An excellent project, Bob. Very much looking forward to reading your opinion.
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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby rfrazier on Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:27 pm

Michael in Frisco, Texas wrote:Are those Kif shock protected, Bob?



It looks like the ST24 has Kif, and the ST26 has Inca.

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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby Grath on Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:28 pm

Did anyone else think this thread was going to be about Bob's new bike saddle being soiled by a sea bird?
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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby rfrazier on Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:32 pm

Grath wrote:Did anyone else think this thread was going to be about Bob's new bike saddle being soiled by a sea bird?


Excellent!

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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby Grath on Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:38 pm

rfrazier wrote:
Grath wrote:Did anyone else think this thread was going to be about Bob's new bike saddle being soiled by a sea bird?


Excellent!

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Thank you. I was particularly proud of the piece of alliteration I was able to work in there. :D
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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby Karl on Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:45 pm

Same here, looking forward to Bobs verdict :)

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Postby doug darter on Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:46 pm

The only thing that I've heard can be iffy with these, is that some of the wheels can be slightly eccentric.
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Postby angeche on Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:14 pm

Bob, take a look at how the 2892 is built: I have one and my impression is that they are "overengineered", I mean sometimes too many screws to get everything in place...
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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby JasonG on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:36 pm

Nice movement shots btw.

What do you use to time movements? I'm looking for something to check a few watches and wondered what is around for not too much money.

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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby rfrazier on Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:04 pm

JasonG wrote:Nice movement shots btw.

What do you use to time movements? I'm looking for something to check a few watches and wondered what is around for not too much money.

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The timer I use is a software program for windows that I'm running under linux. It is 299 GBPs now, but I think it was a bit cheaper when I got it. (Escapement Analyzer.) I eventually paid another 180 GBPs (all in -- shipping, VAT, etc.) for a really nice, refurbished, watch microphone, although the microphone it came with isn't too bad.

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Re: Seagull movements.

Postby Bernard on Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:18 pm

Dear Bob,

I would like to see a comparison of the escapement, especially the finish on the underside, the quality of the pallet stones.
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