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    2024 Tudor Submariner

    Unlike their bigger brother, these are already available


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Kenney View Post
    Unlike their bigger brother, these are already available

    That does look great, congrats! Where did you nab that from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Kenney View Post
    Unlike their bigger brother, these are already available

    Very nice, looks really good.

    That vs a black FXD would be a tough call.

    Think it will be a keeper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Very nice, looks really good.

    That vs a black FXD would be a tough call.

    Think it will be a keeper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crammage View Post
    I like black bays because they make me feel slim, but sell every black bay I buy because they’re fat.

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    50mm lug to lug is the problem with these. And 22mm lug width. Just a bit too big for what they are.

    I’d like to see this in the 58 range. I’d probably buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Kenney View Post
    Unlike their bigger brother, these are already available

    You didn’t hang about!

    Forgot you had the ceramic as well, still my favourite watch I don’t wear as become a slave to Apple. Inspired to wear it this weekend and miss all my notifications!

    Hope you’re well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    You didn’t hang about!

    Forgot you had the ceramic as well, still my favourite watch I don’t wear as become a slave to Apple. Inspired to wear it this weekend and miss all my notifications!

    Hope you’re well.


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    Apologies; I’ve been away for a few days.

    I didn’t buy it. The photo was from another forum. It was just to show that unlike Rolex, Tudor actually sells watches they release.

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    The 58 and 54 are better watches proportionally for me and it seems most. But the sterile oyster 41 is a good offering and getting very close to compete with a modern no date sub. I mean METAS is superior to COSC so on certification it’s already better.

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    Tried it on today, didn’t buy it but still tempted. They had all three in but I only tried on the oyster and rubber.

    You can’t use the rubber without the clasp so the pair comes out to £570 or so meaning if you bought the oyster and rubber after you save £10 vs buying the rubber and buying the oyster bracelet after. I think £4.4k all in.





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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Tried it on today, didn’t buy it but still tempted. They had all three in but I only tried on the oyster and rubber.

    You can’t use the rubber without the clasp so the pair comes out to £570 or so meaning if you bought the oyster and rubber after you save £10 vs buying the rubber and buying the oyster bracelet after. I think £4.4k all in.




    The dial- package looks kinda well a bit small on you, for a purposeful dive type watch, just to me, and obvs not seeking to influence your, anyone else's view or opinion. Maybe the angles are different, or it´s wrist size, but with respect it looks a better fit on JK...OBVS all beauty is in the beholders eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    The dial- package looks kinda well a bit small on you, for a purposeful dive type watch, just to me, and obvs not seeking to influence your, anyone else's view or opinion. Maybe the angles are different, or it´s wrist size, but with respect it looks a better fit on JK...OBVS all beauty is in the beholders eye.
    It’s an odd angle maybe, I was trying to get a picture without 100 reflections in the crystal. Bright lights of the store.

    Tempted to go back and buy it today but at almost 4k it’s a bit close to an OP41 for 5.5k. No discounts but you might get a Tudor umbrella or hat for your troubles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    It’s an odd angle maybe, I was trying to get a picture without 100 reflections in the crystal. Bright lights of the store.

    Tempted to go back and buy it today but at almost 4k it’s a bit close to an OP41 for 5.5k. No discounts but you might get a Tudor umbrella or hat for your troubles.

    Yup could well just be the angle as you say, W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    It’s an odd angle maybe, I was trying to get a picture without 100 reflections in the crystal. Bright lights of the store.

    Tempted to go back and buy it today but at almost 4k it’s a bit close to an OP41 for 5.5k. No discounts but you might get a Tudor umbrella or hat for your troubles.

    Would just wait to pick up a used one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaurav_tzuk View Post
    Would just wait to pick up a used one?
    I think so. It’s a nice watch I just couldn’t hand my card over for £3.9k.

    If Ernest Jones still existed and I could get >8% off buying a gift card first I would have had it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    It’s an odd angle maybe, I was trying to get a picture without 100 reflections in the crystal. Bright lights of the store.

    Tempted to go back and buy it today but at almost 4k it’s a bit close to an OP41 for 5.5k. No discounts but you might get a Tudor umbrella or hat for your troubles.

    Looks a good fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    I think so. It’s a nice watch I just couldn’t hand my card over for £3.9k.

    If Ernest Jones still existed and I could get >8% off buying a gift card first I would have had it.
    You had me Googling to see if Ernest Jones had gone into administration or something!

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    Still one of Tudors best.....imo.

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    2024 Tudor Submariner

    Quote Originally Posted by P9CLY View Post
    Still one of Tudors best.....imo.

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    Yeap, dial, case thickness, bracelet, lack of depreciation. Why anybody would buy the new version is beyond me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stilgoe1972 View Post
    Yeap, dial, case thickness, bracelet, lack of depreciation. Why anybody would buy the new version is beyond me.


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    Yes definitely still the one to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stilgoe1972 View Post
    Yeap, dial, case thickness, bracelet, lack of depreciation. Why anybody would buy the new version is beyond me.


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    Has the matching seconds hand and the smiley too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P9CLY View Post
    Still one of Tudors best.....imo.

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    What reference is that Paul, Black Bay 79220N?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    What reference is that Paul, Black Bay 79220N?
    Yes thats the ref.

    2nd time Ive owned this.My friend bought it new in 2016 and we traded soon after.He regretted that and so a year later we traded again.......I regretted letting it go back too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    What reference is that Paul, Black Bay 79220N?
    There was one on SC for 3.5k, fully serviced and near mint if I recall correctly . Might be worth a look :)


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    One of Tudors best bracelets yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    One of Tudors best bracelets yeah
    Yes it was.


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    I didn’t realise you meant the old model.

    The current one is more expensive.

    https://www.breitling.com/gb-en/watc...2/A173765A1B1/

    Fair enough, it’s just personal opinion. I’d choose the black bay over either of those Breitling but in real terms, all 3 are too big for my taste.

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    Sorry I didn't realise there was a new model. They're hideous IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Idontgram View Post
    I didn’t realise you meant the old model.

    The current one is more expensive.

    https://www.breitling.com/gb-en/watc...2/A173765A1B1/

    Fair enough, it’s just personal opinion. I’d choose the black bay over either of those Breitling but in real terms, all 3 are too big for my taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Sorry I didn't realise there was a new model. They're hideous IMO.
    I'm a fan of Breitling. Although I think Breitling hit the sweet spot with earlier designs of the SO, I don't hate the current 42mm version...it's just big and bold. I do prefer the Heritage versions though...more refined and a better movement. I'd have either over the 41mm BB Tudor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idontgram View Post
    I didn’t realise you meant the old model.

    The current one is more expensive.

    https://www.breitling.com/gb-en/watc...2/A173765A1B1/

    Fair enough, it’s just personal opinion. I’d choose the black bay over either of those Breitling but in real terms, all 3 are too big for my taste.

    For me, Breitling are not even close to the quality and value offered by Tudor.

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    I’d disagree but hey, we all have our own preferences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth-W View Post
    For me, Breitling are not even close to the quality and value offered by Tudor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    I’d disagree but hey, we all have our own preferences.
    Yep, I've been through many models of both brands. Quality is excellent on either...just a matter of personal preference on the brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    I’d disagree but hey, we all have our own preferences.
    Absolutely and it’d be boring if we all agreed mate. ☺️

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    Indeed it would

    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth-W View Post
    Absolutely and it’d be boring if we all agreed mate. ☺️

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    Went back in today and got it. Might pop down to RSJ and add the rubber at some point. Definitely an improvement but still definitely a Tudor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Went back in today and got it. Might pop down to RSJ and add the rubber at some point. Definitely an improvement but still definitely a Tudor.
    Good choice! It looks excellent. And the less we look at watches as investments and more like man (/ woman) jewellery the better.

    Hypothetical question: If you could buy the Tudor Sub or the 124060 - ignore the price - which would you choose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartynJC (UK) View Post
    Good choice! It looks excellent. And the less we look at watches as investments and more like man (/ woman) jewellery the better.

    Hypothetical question: If you could buy the Tudor Sub or the 124060 - ignore the price - which would you choose?
    Thanks Martyn. Thought I’d give it a go.

    I would choose a 124060 over it, no question, but I would choose a 124060 over any Tudor.

    What I really want is a black dial FXD on bracelet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Went back in today and got it. Might pop down to RSJ and add the rubber at some point. Definitely an improvement but still definitely a Tudor.

    Excellent.
    Looks good.

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    There is something about this new smaller model that jars for me in terms of proportions.
    Maybe the indices are too large and away from the dial edge, or the gap between the outer second scale and the dial edge or the bezel interior, but the dial just looks too small in the case.
    I am not finding the proportions at all attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    There is something about this new smaller model that jars for me in terms of proportions.
    Maybe the indices are too large and away from the dial edge, or the gap between the outer second scale and the dial edge or the bezel interior, but the dial just looks too small in the case.
    I am not finding the proportions at all attractive.
    This is what I was trying to allude to a few posts ago, maybe it is the angle of the pics, the dial appears too small, kinda diminutive to my eye too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    There is something about this new smaller model that jars for me in terms of proportions. ...

    Same. To my eye the handset looks like it's been taken from a larger watch - the hour and minute hands are both too big, and emphasise the sphinctery congestion of the diddy little dial...


    Could just be me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    Could just be me...
    Not just you.
    I think other versions of the BB are better looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Went back in today and got it. Might pop down to RSJ and add the rubber at some point. Definitely an improvement but still definitely a Tudor.

    Nice pick up. Tried it on earlier today in Goldsmiths Bluewater than had both bracelet versions in.

    Was mightily impressed, considering on paper the dimensions don't work for me, can see this being a good seller and for many a one watch (for those who cannot get a Rolex Sub), actually felt smaller than a newer sub I recently tried on.




    Coincidentally was looking at the BB54 on rubber, (as I want this for my BB58) and I cannot fathom why there is such a love in for this one, felt very small and not helped by the smaller crown, also not keen on the bezel hashes - seemed blocky.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Went back in today and got it. Might pop down to RSJ and add the rubber at some point. Definitely an improvement but still definitely a Tudor.

    That’s an absolute beauty. I tried one on in the local boutique today, and it was all i could do to keep my CC in the pocket! Only thing that stopped me was already having 2 Tudors in my small collection, a third would be to much. This leaves me having to sell at least one of them, and I REALLY like them!! First world problems.

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    Might be the domed crystal exaggerating the rehaut, not sure. Maybe as it’s no longer faux gilt it’s easier to see?

    This is black bay number 6 for me, possibly 7, so a big fan of wanting to like them then selling and slating so we’ll see what happens in a few days.

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    Is this the same case as the burgundy bezel/jubilee slightly slimmer cased Black Bay they bought out last year? That watch looked to have much better proportions than the pictures I’ve seen of this new black version. I’ve seen one of the burgundy bezelled ones in an AD and they looked fine, I’m guessing it’s the pictures?

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    Here’s a good comparison of the new style BB41 vs the new style Breitling superocean

    The BB41 is burgundy so the only difference is the colour.

    https://youtu.be/e-N2szGRgTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Here’s a good comparison of the new style BB41 vs the new style Breitling superocean

    The BB41 is burgundy so the only difference is the colour.

    https://youtu.be/e-N2szGRgTM

    That Breitling minute hand is terrible

    Do you ever have the Tudor P01? That is the one I always toyed with getting (strap issues aside)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenikjones View Post
    That Breitling minute hand is terrible

    Do you ever have the Tudor P01? That is the one I always toyed with getting (strap issues aside)
    Never tried one on, bit too different for me and nearly always prefer bracelets

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    Having compared this and other watches available at a similar price point, well if you had the chance to buy the Seiko SJE093 and bought the Tudor instead then shame on you. Bang for the buck that's a new benchmark I think. But take the Seiko out of the equation then I think the Tudor is a compelling package and whilst it is expensive by historical Tudor standards all other watch brands are expensive by their standards.

    I really like the Black Bay line and at some stage will buy another when funds allow.

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